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05/23/15 04:59 AM
Rajvik wrote:a suggestion on the AMG issue is handle them like the TSAB, they are another multi-planetary faction with a major computer system, serious powers/science (i mean looking at Skuld and what she does it kinda fits) and a penchant for humanitarian work
Bob Schroeck wrote:Not quite sure how to swing the Demons and Nidhog in this case. Bob? Got any ideas?Well, for DW, I define the difference between a god and a demon as hinging on whether or not they believe lower-dimensionals have any kind of value. This isn't a moral thing -- there are evil gods who value their worshipers from 4D spacetimes, and ostensibly good "demons" who think that 4D types aren't "real" people, any more than the characters in a book are. You might want to work with something like that, perhaps making them essentially griefers, using their own supercomputer to vandalize and undermine "smaller" universes, perhaps by hacking Yggdrasil, or by trying to corrupt/rot enough of a universe that the gods can't undo it, basically for the lulz.
Not quite sure how to swing the Demons and Nidhog in this case. Bob? Got any ideas?
robkelk wrote:Cobalt Greywalker wrote:The problem with the Tenchi Choushin and AMG goddesses is the fact both are defined as 10D beings (at the time these series did this, it was what physics seemed to believe about the structure of the universe). Given the Choushin's goals, this makes things awkward. Post Tenchi OVA3, we can fiddle a bit. Current thinking has the Universe be a 12D to 13D construct. There is also the fact there are defined and undefined infinities.My suggestion? Make this universe a boundary one between the infinities of the Tenchi, AMG, and TSAB multiverses (think Ven diagram, but in a hypercube (hypersphere?)).The reset of the Tenchi OVA universe, bugs in Yggdrasil, and possibly the dimensional dislocation of the Jewel Seed incident caused a merger of the defined infinities of the three multiverses. Outside the fact the Gods are unsettled by how settled they are, nobody else will notice. To everyone else, it has ALWAYS been this way.It will also mean there are greater than 10D beings around, which will make the vast majority of Gods (those 10D beings) nervous. I very much doubt Raven will play his games around certain individuals.Another possibility is to have the Choushin and the Megami both be 10D beings - but the 10D be different subsets of the 12+D of the multiverse. They can only interact in forms that use dimensions that both groups can access, such as our 4D universe or analogues thereof.This would explain why the Choushin thought that looking for a more powerful being then themselves wasn't a fool's errand. It would also explain why the Megami deferred to a superior, if they had actually found an 11D being to serve. And, if BA prefers Raven to be more powerful than the Choushin or the Megami, Raven could be an 11+D being.
Cobalt Greywalker wrote:The problem with the Tenchi Choushin and AMG goddesses is the fact both are defined as 10D beings (at the time these series did this, it was what physics seemed to believe about the structure of the universe). Given the Choushin's goals, this makes things awkward. Post Tenchi OVA3, we can fiddle a bit. Current thinking has the Universe be a 12D to 13D construct. There is also the fact there are defined and undefined infinities.My suggestion? Make this universe a boundary one between the infinities of the Tenchi, AMG, and TSAB multiverses (think Ven diagram, but in a hypercube (hypersphere?)).The reset of the Tenchi OVA universe, bugs in Yggdrasil, and possibly the dimensional dislocation of the Jewel Seed incident caused a merger of the defined infinities of the three multiverses. Outside the fact the Gods are unsettled by how settled they are, nobody else will notice. To everyone else, it has ALWAYS been this way.It will also mean there are greater than 10D beings around, which will make the vast majority of Gods (those 10D beings) nervous. I very much doubt Raven will play his games around certain individuals.
ClassicDrogn wrote:Well, this is where it came up, mainly. WRT the more on topic part - it sounds a bit like the backstory scene of Twoflower's Slayers Trilogy fics. To paraphrase: A golden-haired little girl sang happily, looking down into the project She'd just finished. One of the boys wandered over, and She held it out proudly for him to see. "Look at my butterflies!" She said. Indeed, the terrarium was populated by tiny, short-lived creatures, flitting around and doing their own thing. "Laaaame..." He complained, poking at it to make them react. He dropped in an altogether different sort of bug, and watched it catch and pull the wings off of one of the colorful little ones with much more interest. "See, now it's much cooler!""Meanie! Get away from my butterflies!" She yelled, kicking the boy in the shin. "Now how am I supposed to get that out without breaking everything?"Note, it's now fifteen years since I read these, so this is apt to be a very loose rendition. https://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/Slayers_TrilogyI'm not saying this is any kind of bad thing, just that it's an example to either intentionally reference or to intentionally avoid making a reference to. I think that as a framing device it works fairly well, in fact.
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